Mayhem Festival Recap

Aug 27, 2010 at 12:22 pm

Shadows Fall is a

heavy metal

 band from 



, formed in 1995. Although the band has experienced several line-up changes, for most of its recording career Shadows Fall has been composed of 

Brian Fair



), Jonathan Donais (

lead guitar


Matt Bachand

 (guitar), Paul Romanko (


), and 

Jason Bittner




Shadows Fall have released six studio albums, two compilation albums, and one DVD. Shadows Fall's first two studio albums featured 

David Germain

 playing drums, but in 2002 Bittner joined the band full time. In February 2008, the band was a 

Grammy Award

 nominee in the category 

Best Metal Performance

 for the song "Redemption" off the album

Threads of Life


We caught up with Jason backstage at Mayhem Fest in Cincinnati to discuss what got him into drumming and why he loves doing what he does.

CB: First of all, I have to say the drums are amazing. I love “Still I Rise” because of the beginning and the drums.
That the song actually wouldn’t have existed if it weren’t for the drum part to be quite honest with you.

CB: Well I thought it was the whole song at first then the lyrics came on well into it.
: We were at practice one day and the beginning of that song was inspired from this beat that I did for this drum solo for the modern drum festival DVD 5 years ago. It was just something that morphed out of that and we just started kind of jamming on it and two hours later we had a song.

CB: What’s been your most fulfilling career moment, I know you’ve been nominated for a Grammy.
: Two Grammy nominations actually. Well there’s been a few to be honest with you. The Grammy nominations are great, don’t get me wrong, but both years were against Slayer and Slipknot. We were like, we’re not going to win, come on. To be nominated is an honor. To happen twice is, you know, a double honor. As far as the biggest career moment for me, one of them just happened a couple weeks ago. We played in front of a hundred thousand people in Bogota, Columbia and it was just insane. There were just people everywhere and you couldn’t see where it ended. Another one was when I filled in for Charlie Benante in Anthrax in 2006. That was pretty cool too.

CB: I know you started drumming really early, what was the name of your first band?
: My first band? Gladiator

CB: How old were you, like eight?
: No, no actually I think I was like fourteen. That was the first real band I had where it was more than just me and a guitar player. I don’t count it as a band until it’s like a full band. We even had a gig at one point. I had a gig with my friends, it was me and two trumpet players believe it or not. I know, what kind of gig is that? Drums and trumpet players. But we did like a junior high dance, just the three of us. We were playing stage band songs from middle school, but just the drums and trumpet parts.

CB: Were your parents supportive when you were growing up of the music?
: Yeah. My parents split up when I was young, and I lived with my mom. But God rest her soul, she never complained about the drums. She was really supportive.

CB: Yeah that’s always interesting in a small compact space, like in a house. I also read that you do drum clinics. I find it really cool that you go out and try to teach kids how to do this, who may be aspiring to do it. Why did you get into doing that and what advice do you give them?
: Well for me it’s always been a thing, even when I was a kid when I started going to drum clinics myself when I was thirteen or fourteen years old, I always gravitated to that. I always enjoyed going to them. I thought some day if I’m ever in this position I want to do this myself. Once our career started taking off and I was making a name for myself, I put it out there to the company and said that I wanted to start doing clinics. So here we are six years later, and I’m still doing them. They’re fun, they’re demanding of me because number one, all eyes are on you. There’s nobody else. I’m not playing with the band. If I make a mistake or something, there’s no one to cover it up. You’re going to see and hear it. But for me I like doing it because it gives me a chance to go out, gives me a chance to play different music, gives me a chance to play songs that aren’t in the confines of Shadows Fall and it is not limited to metal. It just gives me a chance to share the knowledge that I have of drumming and how I do what I do. I’m there to educate, it’s not there to be a, “Hey look at me I’m showing off” kind of thing.

CB: I didn’t know if you were going to show up show up today with long hair or short hair, you’re kind of switching it up.
: Its long. It’s long and a mess right now. I don’t know how long it’s going to stay long. I keep threatening to buzz it all off by the end of the summer, but who knows.

CB: Are you taking a poll on whether to keep it?
: You know how many twelve year old kids will be shouting at me, “Don’t do it because you won’t be heavy metal anymore.” I was heavy metal before you were even a gleam in your father’s eye, you know? Hair does not make you metal or non metal.

CB: Who is your dream band to play with?
: I would obviously pick my favorite band, Rush, but then again I would have to fill Neil’s shoes and I can’t do that, but that would be fun just to play with them. Maiden would be a dream gig definately. Metallica wouldn’t be too shabby either.

CB: If you weren’t a musician, what do you think you would be doing?
: I would probably still be working computer operations for the state of New York like I was before I left to do this full time.

CB: It’s not a bad gig
: No it’s not a bad gig. I would be 15 years from retirement or so. Not in this job!

CB: You wouldn’t trade it?
: No I wouldn’t be half as happy as I am now.

CB: So what’s up next for you guys?
: I don’t really know to be quite honest with you. We have an offer to do a festival in China in October which we are hopefully going to do and work in some of the other territories we have been to, like go back to Japan again, go back to Korea, the Philippines again and maybe do some of the markets like Indonesia, Malaysia that we have had offers for but we haven’t had the chance to do yet.

Five Finger Death Punch (often shortened to 5FDP or FFDP) is a

heavy metal

 band from 

Los Angeles, California

, formed in 2005. The band was named "Five Finger Death Punch" as a nod to classic Kung-Fu Cinema. The band consists of

Ivan Moody, Zoltán Báthory, Matt Snell, Jeremy Spencer and


Alice Cooper


Jason Hook

who joined

 in 2009.

We sat down with Jason backstage at Mayhem Fest to talk about

the tour and the band's second album, War Is the Answer , that was released September 22, 2009.

CB: We just saw you guys at Rock on the Range.
: Wasn't that fun?

CB: That was really fun, that was a really awesome weekend. Any crazy stories from that weekend?
: None that I can share with the public. No, just a really hot, fun day.

CB: So you have had a lot of different experiences playing in bands like Alice Cooper and Hillary Duff and now this. Do you miss pop, do you secretly love pop?
: No, I have always had the same answer. I wanted to be a guitar player. I didn't want to work at Target. I didn't want to sack groceries for a living. I didn't want to drive a truck, so this is all I have done. I just sort of stuck to a certain path, and when someone said, "I’m going to pay you a bunch of money to go play guitar" I said,” Fine.” Whatever you’re doing, as long as it’s music, there is something to be learned. I just figured this was a good chance to get an education where most guys that play heavy metal or rock don't really get to have the chance to see that side of touring and that side of the business. So I was just there to have fun, make money, and learn anything I could learn from the experience. It was a positive experience. You have to understand that those people are multi -multi millionaires, and so it’s everything was five-star on the road and the one thing about doing the pop scene was a lot of television, so I had a chance to sort of introduce myself into what it meant to do all these shows. Morning shows, night shows, prime time, awards, VH1 specials, it was all that kind of stuff, which was really cool. Doesn't really come to heavy metal like it does that world, you know? So it was kind of cool. They keep those studios freezing cold. We’re actually doing Jimmy Kimmel August 17th.

Jason: I remember doing Regis and it was 62 degrees in the studio at 5:30 am. I’m sitting here thinking, "Who the fuck wrote this?”
: The only way to stay awake I guess that early in the morning.

CB: So you guys have the album, War is the Answer. What is the story behind the title?
: It was meant to have people sort of read it and go, "Wow, bold" and our outlook is, we are very serious about what we are doing, and it is sort of a do or die competition with us. You know people are always going, "War isn't the answer, peace is it" and I know our opinion is, divide and conquer. Get out of our way or you will be smashed.

CB: I mean personally I like competition, so it’s healthy.
: We don't take second place easily. So I mean "War is the Answer," I am personally a military history enthusiast, so I have racks and racks of books and DVDs and stuff on the older wars, World War II, Vietnam, so I kind of like all of it. And then we also just went to Iraq.

CB: Yeah that was my next question, you played 10 dates in Iraq, and supported the troops. That has to be an amazing thing.
: Yeah our music sort of resonates with them.

CB: They like it.
: Yeah they sort of gravitated towards our band, and we developed this respect with the Marines. As we started touring around the states we would meet more and more Marines and service people.

CB: They aren't bad to have behind your back.
: No, no and they are all coming out and going, "Dude I just nuked a whole fucking village listening to your first album." We’re like, "Okay cool, thanks." I guess war is the answer for you then.

CB: But the album really wasn't about the military war, right?
: No, no

CB: I thought maybe it was like tongue and cheek a little bit.
: No nothing is tongue and cheek.

CB: What was the most memorable experience Iraq other than the sand?
: Probably eating the food rations, no. The most memorable experience, I mean really, there were so many. We got to screw around with some of the big guns. We met every high ranking general in every base and that was a privilege. They have these coins and apparently they are extremely rare to be given, but they gave us those and that was extremely special. It was great. We also flew around in a C-130 airplane.

CB: Did anybody get sick?
: No. They all let us fly it a little bit, Apache helicopters flying over our gig, blowing off signal flares and stuff. The whole thing was pretty amazing.

CB: You’re like, if only I could bring that pyro on the road.
: Yeah it was amazing.

CB: So you’re the newest member?
: I am, the newest member.

CB: Did they haze you at all when you got on board?
: No not really. I mean there was sort of a mutual respect there, you know I came in there working hard as a professional. I suppose they could have, but we have all been friends for a long time. I’ve known these guys for a long time.

CB: Did you guys grow up together?
: I have known Jeremy and Zol since like late 90's. Jeremy and I have always been friends, and there was always talk of me coming into the band, but we just had to figure out the right time. So there wasn't really any hazing.

CB: So what’s up next for the band in the fall?
: A headlining tour is in the works. We will be touring with a big band.

CB: But you can’t tell me who?
: Can’t tell you who. I want to make sure it’s okay to say, because if I say it, and I wasn't supposed to, then I’m in shit. But it’s going to be exciting. It’s a five week tour, all arenas, we’re talking about trying to start a brand new record.

CB: Are you writing for it?
: Yeah a little, bits and pieces.

Murderdolls was formed during 2002 in 

Hollywood, California

. The band line-up consists of core members 

Wednesday 13


Joey Jordison

(Slipknot/Rob Zombie.)

To date the band has released one album titled of 

Beyond the Valley of the Murderdolls

 which was released in 2002. Their second album, 

Women and Children Last

, will be released this summer 2010.

We sat down with Wednesday 13 backstage at Mayhem to discuss the band re-uniting and a tour that will kickoff this fall.

CB: You’re back together, first album, first show in six years, right?
: Yep, yep.

CB: And how’s it been?
: First album in eight years, first we did our first two shows in six years in California I guess about a month ago. Yeah man it’s great. Me and Joey, we got back together and decided to do a real Murderdolls record this time of original material and this record is just really well thought out as opposed to the first one. We love that record and everything about it but it was just really thrown together and we wanted to make sure this time that we made a real record with real songs and just original material this time.

CB: So I know you sing, you play guitar, you play bass.
: I dance. I start fires.

CB: Are there any weird instruments you play or want to play that we don’t know about?
: Harmonica. I dabble on the piano. I can do that brrrrrring thing. No, I mean I can play a little bit of everything, which was what was cool in the studio because between Joey and I, we can play everything. That’s a good thing to have, so we are like a two-man army.

CB: You can just put it all together right, all the pieces?
: And that’s what we did for the record too, so, yep.

CB: Are you guys practicing while you’re out here on the road?
: No, no

CB: Are you coming out tonight during any of the performances, are we gonna see you?


I get the boring job of this tour. I get to watch everyone else rock out and I get to talk about myself all day, which it’s great because it’s promo for the record and I love doin it, it’s just kinda bum sometimes when you’re on the side of the stage watching and you think “Man, I wish I was playing tonight” but it’s great.” It’s just this whole press tour and by the time we’re done, we will have done press for almost ten weeks from Paris to Alabama to set our record up, there’s no better way to do that.

CB: Plus it’s your friends, right, you’re hanging out with?
: Yeah so it’s a cool thing.

CB: I just have some personal questions, you don’t have to answer. I know you’re from North Carolina, right, you live in North Carolina?
: I don’t anymore, but I’m from there.

CB: And I’m from Tennessee, a fairly conservative place to grow up.
: Yes

CB: Any issues with your parents being supportive? I know you’ve been doing music for a long time.
: Yeah my parents are great. They’ve still never seen me play live, they know what I do, they understand what I do. I think they don’t understand what I do, but they know what I do.

CB: They know what you do.
: They’re super proud of me and they’re super supportive. My family is great I had a great childhood and everything, but I guess just being in the Bible Belt and things like that and being around those kind of people you know, and I love those, those are my people.

CB: You have huge fans there, but it’s still different
: Yeah, but at the same time, growing up I got picked on as a kid and you know your typical stuff in school and things like that so I think that’s part of the reason why I turned out like this.

CB: That’s not so bad
: It’s a good thing. That town pretty much created me, you know.

CB: You can send a shout-out, thanks man
: Yeah, so thank you guys for knocking me down the stairs in the seventh grade, you made me want to become a rockstar.

CB: And you have a daughter, right?
: I do have a daughter, yes.

CB: And how old is she now?
: She’s twelve.

CB: Does she listen to Murderdolls music?
: I don’t know. She would never tell me, she still thinks I’m a dork, so I don’t know.

CB: Do you ever take her out on the road with you? You’ve toured solo too, right?
: Yeah, she’s never seen me play live either. We go through North Carolina on this tour so I’m hoping I can just get her to come out to see the show. She’s never been to a huge festival like this and seen this side of the show and I’d like her to see Rob Zombie’s show because it’s insane.

CB: Yeah we just saw him at Rock on the Range and he blew it away.
: Oh it’s went up a notch since then, it’s ridiculous, his show is amazing. Every night I do press and then I go and try to catch a few bands like Lamb of God and then I’m always either right behind Joey when he’s playing or front of house watching every night. It’s cool because I’ve been a fan of Zombie for years, even back to White Zombie, and it’s cool to see my friend and band mate up there rocking those songs out too. It’s such a killer show.

CB: I remember being in the pit at a Zombie show in like 1994 and got hurt pretty bad, but it was a good night. It’s burned on my brain.
: Oh yeah those are good nights

CB: Where are you living now?
: I am living in Los Angeles for the moment, until we go on tour and then I’ll be living on a bus. That’s my plan I’m going to live on a bus and then decide where I want to live when we get off tour.

CB: You can check it all out, it’s like the best free trip to ride around and pick out a place. And I know you tour with Alice Cooper. That’s got to be like legendary in a lot of ways. What was that like? Any crazy stories from that?
: I’ve became really good friends with Alice over the years. The first time playing with him was when I finally got to open up for him with Wednesday 13 back in 2005 and then I have played with him every year almost since then. I just became really close with their unit and his crew. Still to this day, he is the greatest performer, one of the best shows, and one of the most down-to-earth guys. I have learned so much from him and he has given me so much advice and he has helped me out through some dark times, so he has been a really good guy for me.

CB: So are you guys going to go on tour in the fall? Got something planned yet?
: It’s possible. I think that would be a no brainer for Murderdolls and Cooper to team up. Joey is committed to these tours, but Murderdolls comes out the 31st, and we will be touring for two years on that.

CB: Well hopefully we will catch a show when you come back through here.
: I keep telling everybody that we didn't do a lot of stuff in America last time, but we are doing a full U.S. run, I can’t say who it’s with, but we are doing a full U.S. run to start September 29th and it goes up through Halloween.

CB: So it’s confirmed? You’re going to be out and about.
Yes, and I can’t tell you who it’s with. But it will be the best Halloween show, ever.

CB: You started writing an autobiography too, didn't you?
: No no no I will write that on my death bed. It’s called, “I’m Sorry,” and it comes out the day I die.

CB: I wanted to ask you about your accident. You don't play guitar anymore live, do you?
: Yeah yeah, I just couldn't play it for a couple months cause when I flipped my car in 2007, I broke my collar bone and fractured my ankle and I went on tour three weeks later, and so during the day I was wearing a sling and I was still driving our van, which was probably not the best thing while being on a lot of medication, but no I’m healed up from it. I still have a big knot on my chest from it, but it doesn't bother me when I play guitar or anything like that. I had to take four or five months off because it took that long to heal because every night I was on tour and I wasn't resting it.

CB: Any guilty pleasures?
: No. I’m pretty up front about everything I do. I mean I like to watch the show, Friends, people wouldn't expect that, but I don't feel guilty about it.

CB: You don't listen to Brittany Spears?
: No, no. I’m honest. Everything I listen to, I don't like rap music, but I like the ghetto boys. They are so mean and angry. Talking about bitches all the time.

CB: Do you have any up and coming indie bands that your listening to?
: Not anything new. I mean it’s new to me, but its old to other people. I have become a huge fan over the past year of Killing Joke and bands like that that Joey turned me onto. When Murderdolls came out, I was just this close-minded little prick that only listened to glam rock and punk rock and I was like, everything else sucks I hate everything, and then, 8 years later, I am a huge Slayer fan. I listen to everything, you know? So, I opened my mind up a little bit, and even country bands and all that is in between.

CB: Hey there is good music in all genres. Good music is good music.
: But I have opened my mind up to all that kind of stuff and even doing the outlaw country stuff, and listening to the other side of extreme heavy metal, and somehow I’ve melded it in my head, which comes off as an influence in Murderdolls, maybe some people won’t see it immediately.

CB: Maybe not country
: It might come out.

CB: Maybe some fiddle or steel guitar?
: No no, just a little accent. I am from where I am from.

Korn is an American 


 band formed in 

Bakersfield, California

, in 1993. The current band line up includes four members: 

Jonathan Davis

James "Munky" Shaffer

Reginald "Fieldy" Arvizu

, and 

Ray Luzier


To date, Korn has sold 32 million albums worldwide as of 2009, while earning six 


 nominations—two of which they have won for "

Freak on a Leash

" and "

Here to Stay


We caught up with Fieldy from KORN on the tour bus before their set at Mayhem Festival at Riverbend. Fieldy was in the process of putting in dreadlocks for a friend while we had our interview to discuss the band and some of his side projects.

Who knew he had hairstylist on his resume?

CB: I know you play bass and guitar, but do you play anything else, or do you wish that you could secretly play something else?
: The only thing that I can’t do that I wish I could is full on shred solo on guitar. I can play guitar but I can’t shred.

CB: I know you also played with one of my favorites, Lil Wayne. You were on the track “Prom Queen,” what was that experience like?
: It was cool. He was playing guitar in the video. Lil Wayne just started playing guitar, and he loves it. So he's like, "Alright bring out my guitar" and they brought his guitar out, and it was like a $25,000 guitar or something. Everyone was tripping on like the best guitar you could ever buy. I’m not all into guitars like that, so I don't even remember what kind it was, but I know it was top of the line. He pulls it out and he's like, "Alright, where do I plug in at?" When you’re on videos you don't plug in, but he ended up making them plug it in.

CB: So he's been recording stuff from jail, like calling in and recording stuff by phone. It’s really funny the things he has been doing lately. So that’s probably not going to get him out any sooner.
: Got to keep working, got to keep it moving. If it’s all good, we keep it moving.

CB: So what has been one of your most satisfying career moments?
: In the past or with KORN?

CB: Anywhere.
: Probably completing my STILLWELL album with my other band. I mean it’s done. That was pretty satisfying to play guitar. I’m a bass player and it’s finished and I’m proud of it. I finished a bass album, which is pretty satisfying. It’s 18 songs, instrumental, from like jazz music to funk, Latin, all kinds of different styles of music all on one CD. So I guess doing those kinds of things recently on the side.

CB: No Grammys, nothing like that?
: I don't really care about those things. I don't know. I have some.

CB: Do you have them in the closet or where do you keep them?
: No, I have them out.

CB: So where do you live now?
: I live down in Orange County, about an hour north of San Diego.

CB: You have two daughters, right, and a son?
: Three daughters now, I just had another one.

CB: Do they listen to KORN? What advice do you give them, growing up?
: I don't really give them advice, I just let my kids watch me live because I think I’m living the best life that I can live, a life that pleases the Lord, and hopefully they can grow up seeing that.

CB: So lead by example. Do they come to the shows, do they listen?
: Yeah

CB: You had your autobiography out last year too, right?
: Yeah

CB: Did you do a book tour?
: Yeah I did a little bit, but most of it is just going out with KORN, and I did some book signings out on tour. It’s funny to say things you’re proud of, it sucks because over time when you put a book out, you’re like, you want to put another one out because life keeps going, you know? And I’m like in a different phase of my life, and so I don't know if people are ever satisfied.

CB: You don't want to do another one?
: I do want to, just so I can say what I want.

CB: A lot of people find it hard to write books, they hate it. They get under contract and then they can’t finish.
: That’s why I haven't put another one out, it’s a lot of work, but I would love to put another one out.

CB: I heard how you said you want to live your life to suit the Lord and many people have said KORN has really bad lyrics. How do you think your involvement in KORN still helps you follow in your lifestyle of Christianity?
: Like I said with my kids, the best thing you can do is to let people watch you live. Not tell them how to live or what they should stop doing. That is something that only ends up with people being religious and saying, you have to do this, you have to do that. There are a lot of things I don't do, but I don't tell people they can’t.

CB: You don't judge.
: Yeah, because you can’t, if I’m living my life, pleasing enough, that people will be like, "I want to live like that cause I’m doing it right.” So I can’t really say, you know? If Jonathan wants to use bad words, maybe one day he won’t. I don't know. But it’s not that big of a threat. It could be worse. I still have things where I fall short in certain areas. Sin is sin. I don't know if it matters what.

CB: Do you have your Fred Durst tattoo?
: Yeah he did a KORN tattoo on my ankle. (He shows it to me.)

CB: You guys have the new album, do you want to talk about that?
: New KORN album came out last week. “KORN 3, Remember Who You Are.” I don't even know how it’s calculated to see how it is doing. After it’s been out for a week, you get a sound scan to tell you if it’s number one in the country or whatever.

CB: You don't know yet?
: It came out in a few places like, Japan was number five, Australia was eight. Germany or something was eight; I don't know something like that.

CB: Was the process done differently, putting this one together?
: We actually just went in with the old school approach, just jammed out.

CB: Did you record in L.A.?
: Yeah, Hollywood. We got together in a little rehearsal room and that was it. Simple. Back to how we did it in like ‘93. Just jamming out. We meet together as a band. A lot of people don't do that anymore because of computers, you don't have to.

CB: But you have to be kind of on your game with that? You can hear everything you do.
: You gotta be like straight inspiration, on the spot.

CB: Anything else you want to share with us? Deep dark secrets, guilty pleasures?
: Guilty pleasure, when I’m just laying out in my backyard, I listen to Justin Timberlake.

CB: We were also told to tell you that you had the baddest bass beats on the Mayhem Fest and the best moment of Mayhem was your bass solo.
: Oh yeah I do a little bass solo with Ray my drummer.

We sat down with drummer Ray Luzier on the bus at Mayhem to discuss his love of drums and the new record, KORN III: Remember Who You Are.

CB: I saw that you really got your start with David Lee Roth and you played for eight years in his band, what was that like?
: It was awesome. I had been in a million bands before that in L.A. I was with the lead singer from Ratt,

Stephen Pearcy

. I was in a lot of those kinds of bands, but nothing really of stature, so I became kind of a session guy. I would play other peoples’ records and I would play on movie sound tracks and T.V. commercials, you name it. I was a working musician. I went to music school when I moved to L.A., so I also got a job teaching there. I just wanted to be involved in the business, no matter what I was doing. Obviously to be in a hit band would be the ultimate, you know, but Dave came along through a session. I played three songs on his guitar player’s record and he was this little kid, like 21 years old and I thought he was lying when he told me he was in Dave’s band. He said "Hey man I’m playing with David Lee Roth" and I was like "Sure you did," and he said "No, no really and the even better news is, the two songs you played on my record, he really likes and he wants you to come back and cut them again, and he's going to sing over them." And I’m thinking, okay, now you’re really reaching pal. And it was true, but we did it in Steve I's house in Hollywood Hills and Dave came over and it was bizarre because I’m from a very small town in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 118 acre farm. Dave has been hanging on my wall since I was 10 years old. So I’m like playing his songs in my underwear, and the next thing you know I’m on stage with Dave playing along, so it was awesome.

CB: I saw that you joined an Entertainment Company in LA and you were just doing all kinds of gigs around town.
: Yeah.

CB: Any weird gigs that you've done?
: Oh yeah a lot of weird gigs. It was called Perfect World Entertainment, and I called them the life savers because when you’re off the road, sometimes you get no salary. Some artists are fortunate enough to keep you on your salary, but if you’re not getting salary, what are you going to do? You’re looking for work and, well Perfect World Entertainment is this company that has 18 bands coast to coast, and it’s an amazing thing. They do disco, they do like 80's retro, they do funk, jazz. They do everything and it’s so awesome because you get into this character. Like literally with the disco thing, you put this wig on and you play disco beats and people show up from all over the place. We had a steady gig in Vegas for a year and a half with this gig. They would fly you out, put you in a hotel, and pay you a lot of money. I’m playing like two drums and had gold chains on. Then there was a thing called Metal Shop and they actually evolved into Steal Panther in L.A. and they are actually quite popular there still. You put an 80's metal wig on, and you’re playing this crazy, you know. But it’s more of a show. A lot of bands play covers; this isn't like that. There are costumes involved and the disco has dancers and so it’s more of a show production and skits. There are also comedy skits, so I learned a lot from that. I’ve played about 1200 gigs with them. Yeah, that’s how much I've done since ‘96, just with Perfect World. I am a working guy. I don't like to sit around, so if I am home for two days, I will call the agency and ask if they have any gigs coming up. I’ll never forget the first KORN tour. We were playing stadiums in Australia, with Ozzy. Literally 60,000 seat stadiums, and I got home two days later and I played at a wedding in Malibu with the Boogy Nights, the wig band.

CB: Does anybody freak out when they see you? Do they know?
: No, most of them don’t notice who I am, I saw one girl had a stick and it had KORN written on it and she goes, "Oh this is the KORN drummer's stick" and I went, "Yeah, that is his stick."

CB: What made you decide to go to music school? I don't see very many drummers that have been professionally trained.
: To be honest with you, it was an excuse to go to L.A. My parents were all into education and everybody in my family is in education, but I was kind of turned off by the school musician. I always played from the heart no matter what. But the lessons were kind of an excuse to go to L.A. I got out there and I realized how much I didn't know. I was like, "Man, I’m stupid, na