Oct 29 – Nov 4, 2008

Oct 29 - Nov 4, 2008 / Vol. 14 / No. 51

Dirty Secrets

The National Underground Railroad Freedom Center is exposing 27 million of them Nov. 18 with a screening of Call Response, “a first of its kind feature documentary film that reveals the world’s 27 million dirtiest secrets: There are more slaves today than ever before in human history.”—- "Call Response goes deep undercover where slavery is…

Where the Party At?

Seriously. Where's the best place to hang out and await the fate of our nation? Preferably somewhere with food and booze (besides Charlie's house) so one can either celebrate victory or drink enough to black out the bad news. 

Events: Diva Dazzle

Want to support a worthy cause and have a good time, too? Stop AIDS (which fights HIV/AIDS through education, services and compassionate care) is presenting the sixth iteration of this popular benefit, Diva Dazzle Six, at the Hilton Cincinnati Netherland Plaza. With cabaret master Terry LaBolt at the piano, the evening includes new and returning…

Comedy: Troy Baxley

Comedian Troy Baxley describes his set as a tiny organism. “Each show is a brand new sweet baby,” he says. “That’s why I get offended when people go ‘How was the show last night? Did you kill?’ Well, I don’t kill babies, if that’s what you’re asking. My show is a loving, caring chest hug.”…

Art: Sign Song: Hobo Signs & Mixed Messages at Semantics Gallery

Scott Boberg's new show at Semantics Gallery in Brighton is called Sign Song: Hobo Signs & Mixed Messages and borrows from hobo symbols used on houses during the Great Depression to inform fellow hoboes about what to expect from the occupant inside. The exhibition features as its centerpiece “Hobo Signs (Nos. 1-50),” consisting of 50…

Music: Girl Talk

Gregg Gillis (aka Girl Talk) is a mash-up artist and lawsuit waiting to happen. He takes Pop songs you know and love (or maybe hate) and recreates them into something entirely new and very danceable. “The ultimate goal is to recontextualize the material enough where it has its own identity,” he says. “The whole idea…

Onstage: H.M.S. Pinafore

Cincinnati has a boatload of local musical theater talent, and much of it is aboard the good ship Pinafore for a two-week voyage. Gilbert and Sullivan were the Rodgers and Hammerstein of the 1870s and 1880s in England, and their operettas still entertain audiences today. H.M.S. Pinafore, or The Lass that Loved a Sailor, satirizes…

Art: The Clouds Are After Me at Meyers Gallery

At first glance Brooklyn-based artist Kambui Olujimi’s solo show at Meyers Gallery at the University of Cincinnati, The Clouds Are After Me, seems sparse. Loose-leaf pages hang from the white walls in likely formations. They become both more interesting and more disappointing when you look a little closer. The “clouds” that follow the artist are…

Music: Sam Bush

When Sam Bush was a fiddle playing teenager, he had the opportunity to meet Bluegrass legend Bill Monroe. When young Bush tried to display his blossoming mandolin skills to Monroe, the icon's advice was succinct: “Stick to the fiddle.” Good thing Bush didn’t take that comment to heart or he might not have gone on…

VOTE Today!!!

It has been said that the 2008 Presidential Election is the most important election in a generation. Be sure that you're a part of it, and help your family, friends and neighbors share in this historic event. Find your polling place and voter registration information by visiting http://maps.google.com/vote. Read CityBeat's election endorsements here, and get…

Lit: Tom Moon

When Tom Moon, author of the new 1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die, makes a personal appearance, as he does 7 p.m. Wednesday at Joseph-Beth Booksellers, he expects people to come to argue. Moon spent three years working on this book. It is, in a sense, a follow-up to Patricia Schultz’s trend-setting 1,000 Places…

Music: Gov’t Mule

In 1994, guitarist Warren Haynes and bassist Allen Woody formed Gov’t Mule as a side outlet for their own songs. The two virtuosos (along with Blues/Rock keyboardist and harmonica player Johnny Neel) had joined The Allman Brothers Band in 1989, when the classic rockers reformed based on the success of the career retrospective, Dreams. Gov’t…

Classes: Veggie Thanksgiving Cooking Class

There was no canned corn at the first Thanksgiving in 1621, so why should there be today? Park Vine offers the chance to get back to how the Pilgrims and Indians first did it. Local cook Adrienne Cooper provides tips on how to create a healthy, locally produced and plant-based Thanksgiving meal. It’s an opportunity…

Music: Ricky Nye

Ricky Nye’s musical pedigree is well known by now. An Elder grad with a Berklee School of Music education, Nye (then under his given name, Rick Nieheisel) returned home for a six-ear stint behind the keyboards for one of Cincinnati’s most renowned Rock bands, The Raisins. When they dissolved in 1985, Nye worked with local…

Events: In the Mood for Love

Wong Kar Wai is the master of melancholy. The Hong Kong filmmaker’s moody, visually sumptuous movies are drenched in romantic longing. The apex of this preoccupation just might be the aptly titled In the Mood for Love (2000), Wong’s 98-minute love letter to 1960s Hong Kong in which two immaculately dressed neighbors (Tony Leung and…

Onstage: CSO Choral Glory

A lot of organizations like to do summer campaigns around the Christmas in July theme as a way to bring a little holiday cheer into the sweltering doldrums of the hottest season. Perhaps the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra (CSO) had a similar concept in mind with Choral Glory, this weekend’s fall version of the May Festival.…

Get Involved: Technology Recycling

Eight-six thousand pounds and counting: add a few of your unwanted pounds … of old technology. The Hamilton County Solid Waste Management District has already recycled that much computer equipment this year. There’s still time to add your old monitors, CPUs, hard drives, mice, keyboards, laptops and other assorted modern technologies. Take any of the…

Events: Historical/Horror Film Series

Halloween might be over but, depending on who wins the presidential election, the horror might continue. The Contemporary Arts Center can help amplify your feelings of anxiety and unease with the latest installment of its Historical/Horror Film Series, which is a double-feature that pairs one film that explores different elements of horror with another in…

Events: Public All Over

Publico’s about to be gone forever (for real this time), and the only thing you’ll have left are your memories — or the memories you wish you had because you happened to miss all five of the final events leading up to the closing of the gallery and the Publico 2003-2008 show. If you failed…

Music: Senses Fail

When Senses Fail roared out of New Jersey five years ago, the quintet couldn't drink in the bars where they were booked to play. The group’s18-year-old  vocalist James “Buddy” Nielsen had posted a band recruitment ad on the Web in 2002, attracting 15-year-old drummer Dan Trapp and his two guitar pals Garrett Zablocki and Dave…

Onstage: Once on This Island

The joyously exuberant 1990 musical Once On This Island is receiving a joyously exuberant production by Northern Kentucky University (NKU). There’s enough enthusiasm to spill beyond the confines of NKU’s intimate Stauss Theatre, the university’s black-box studio. The production lacks some discipline, but this is a thoroughly entertaining rendition of Lynn Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty’s…

The Most Useful Free (and Open) Software for Mac

About two years ago, I wrote a very popular piece for my blog, The Simple Dollar, called 30 useful Pieces Of Free (and Open) Software for Windows. In it, I talked about how I had a new Dell laptop and that I didn’t want to spend a lot of money on additional software for it,…

So Far So Good (With Photos)

Just gathering anecdotal info from CityBeat staffers and photographers, voting is going well so far. Long lines have been reported in Clifton, Northside, College Hill and the West Side, with voting this morning at the Main Public Library downtown taking 90 minutes. Basically, as expected, every precinct is seeing more voters than normal but there…

Obama Even Wins Monday Night Football Contest

In yet another episode of "I'm a Real Person and McCain Is a Phony," Barack Obama yesterday told ESPN's Chris Berman that if he could change one thing about sports that it would be to eliminate the current college football championship format in favor of an eight-team playoff. The exchange was a pre-taped segment that…

Look, Listen, Vote

Today is the day. No more political commercials. No more stump speeches. No more SNL appearances. No more Mike Breen clogging up his stupid music blog with stupid political shit. —- You know what to do today. Stop reading this. Go do your duty. OK, seriously, why are you still here? Well, if you're looking…

Zagat Props Local Restaurants

Zagat published its latest survey of America’s top restaurants last week. Twenty local eateries made the cut, all of which have been covered in some form or fashion by CityBeat’s dedicated dining team. —- Jean-Robert/Pigall’s took the crown as the top local restaurant, compiling a food score of 29 out of 30. The review blurb,…

At Last, the Finish Line

Even the most die-hard political junkies are probably tired of the presidential campaign by this point, nearly two years after most of the contenders kicked off the race for the White House.—- With less than 36 hours left before the last polls close in the western United States on Tuesday night, though, it’s time to…

Locals Entertain Voters Waiting in Line

Don't be surprised if you see some of your favorite local musicians playing "strolling troubadour" tomorrow while you are waiting in (hopefully not too long) lines to vote. "Barack the Line" is a grassroots effort to organize various musicians to play acoustically outside of polling stations. The idea is that voters might hang out a…

Green is the New Black

Everyone loves the PR of going green—the city wants to personify green, the county is pushing green, businesses tout themselves as environmentally friendly regardless of their minuscule efforts—making going “green” as chic as a little black dress.—- Some organizations get to wrap themselves in green and legitimately benefit from the current environmental hype – one…

Hip Hop the Vote at Xavier

A trio of Hip Hop superstars are in town today to rally voters to get to the polls tomorrow. Jay-Z, Mary J. Blige and P Diddy Puff Daddy Bo Didley Combs (or whatever his name is today) will appear on the Xavier campus today at 3 p.m. (gates open at 2 p.m.). They'll speak on…

Monday Wellness Roundup

Health Issues* Wall Street Journal: Is a Candidate's DNA the next campaign issue?* Cincinnati Enquirer: Moderate portion sizes for a better diet* New York Times: Everything you know about stretching is wrong Rehab for your Wallet* The Simple Dollar: Frugal tips including buying used furniture from hotels and making your own gift baskets at Christmas.*…

Obama at UC on Sunday

The next president of the United States, Barack Obama, officially has announced a campaign rally for Sunday evening at UC's Nippert Stadium. Gates open at 6 p.m., and he's scheduled to speak at 9. Check out the Obama web site for details. It's fitting that he makes his final area appearance of the campaign on…

ACLU: ‘Refuse to Leave’

If your eligibility to cast a vote is challenged at the polls for any reason during this election season, don’t be intimidated. Insist on receiving and casting a provisional ballot before you leave.—- That’s the advice given by the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio for would-be voters who face heightened scrutiny while trying to…

Batman’s Dead…You’re Next

The past three years I have been Batman for Halloween. It was always an easy choice; just throw on some thermals, put on a jock strap and head out the door with the utility belt as a wallet and road dog holder.—- The first time it was hilarious, in my mind at least. I bought…

Newspapers Shrink Away from the AP and International News

Spreading cancellations of Associated Press memberships could leave our premier international news service unable to maintain its breadth and quality. AP is the major source of international news in our daily papers and any diminution will degrade our already dismal understanding of events beyond our borders. As a nation, we don’t know when the White…

2008 Presidential Race

The long, long 2008 presidential campaign is coming down the home stretch, as Election Day approaches on Nov. 4. CityBeat's coverage began before the Ohio primary March 4, a critical moment in the Democratic race. We followed the campaigns through the Democratic National Convention in Denver and the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis. We tracked…

Stage Door: Ghosts and Bad Behavior

Halloween seems on its way to being celebrated as a classic holiday, so perhaps it's appropriate that Cincinnati Shakespeare Company has not one but two productions that specifically the give-me-goosebumps crowd. —- Their staging of Hamlet has a heavy dose of ghosts and bad behavior, with a touch of film noir and martial arts, so…

Friday Movie Roundup: Big-Named Disappointments

Our largely lackluster fall movie season trudges on with five more tepidly received efforts despite the presence of some big-named veteran directors like Clint Eastwood, Barry Levinson, Kevin Smith and the newly single Guy Ritchie. —- Of course, each has left me disappointed (or worse) in recent years: Eastwood continues to tread deeper into heavy-handed…

Song for McCain

A few weeks ago, when we did a barrage of reporting about the band The National’s Obama rally/concert on Fountain Square, a commenter reacted to some comments I made about The Dixie Chicks (who I said were “virtually crucified” and "right" for criticizing the President) and other musicians whose “liberal” stances on the Bush administration…

Back to Fall

After the Halloween costumes are put away and the pile of candy is hidden from the kiddies or that hangover finally subsides, it’s time to fall back an hour into Eastern Standard Time (EST) one last time. The first Sunday in November at 2 a.m. is when we do the deed; this year it’s Nov.…

It Takes a Village (or at Least a Good Online Community)

It's rare to see modern folks coexisting in a supportive community, giving and gaining from a well-connected group of people with whom they share common values or goals. My family and I are fortunate to have such a rare and nurturing support network through our neighborhood church community. For many Americans, however, meeting the needs…

A Celebration, A Relief

John Fox is a classy guy. His team wins the World Series and all he does is wear a Phillies jersey to work and go about his business. If the Reds won the championship and I lived in Philly, I'd be getting in everyone's face and yelling "Whoot! Whoot! Whoot!"—- The Phillies became the National…

Things To Do This Weekend

Halloween is tomorrow. You have like 26 hours left to carve a pumpkin, find whatever shade of fishnet stockings best compliment your "sexy" cop/nurse/cat/pirate/witch/mermaid/princess outfit and get your hopes up about how awesome this weekend is going to be!—- Here's a little list of some things happening around the city (Halloween-related and not). Try not…

Joaquin Phoenix Calls It Quits

Sure, he’s always been uncomfortable in the spotlight — but retirement? Joaquin Phoenix told an E! reporter at a recent red-carpet Hollywood event, “This will be my last performance as an actor. I’m not doing films anymore … I’m going to play music. —- “Are you serious? the E! dude asked. "Why?" “Yeah, I’ve been…

Apparently Size Does Matter

Politics is often a game of strategy, and an area anti-tax group is well-known for taking the offensive on most issues it advocates. A recent dispute over a referendum on a payday loan law, however, has the group facing stinging criticism for getting its facts wrong and overstating its own influence.—- The Coalition Opposed to…

Lose Another 86,000 Pounds

Nope, not an ad for stomach surgery; 86,000 pounds is the amount of computer equipment recycled to date via the Hamilton County Solid Waste Management District’s free computer recycling program. If you want to add your old technology to the growing weight, according to a press release, you can contribute the following: Monitors, CPUs, hard…

Obama’s Closing Argument

Anyone who watched Barack Obama's 30-minute TV advertorial last night want to comment on it? Seems like it got pretty big ratings. Seems like Obama was everywhere. Seems like he came across as a virtuoso.

The Turn of the Screw (Review)

Critic's Pick Cincinnati Shakespeare Company (CSC) is promoting its current production of Hamlet as “the greatest ghost story ever told.” But if you gravitate toward such tales, you need to return during the run of the great tragedy for CSC’s staging of The Turn of the Screw, offered on Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday evenings (7:30…

Scary Trip to the Barber

I had a weird and frightening encounter at my local barber shop today. Frightening because it opens my eyes to the depths of fear and hatred exhibited by some people who oppose Barack Obama.—- As I was waiting to get my hair cut, the barber asked the customer in the chair for his advice on…

Kim Taylor Tells The Greatest Story

Mesmerizing local singer/songwriter Kim Taylor – who performed recently at the CMJ Music Festival in New York City — has a new five-song EP called The Greatest Story …, which is available now for about four bucks if you download it on her Web site. (In fact, all of Kim’s music is only available digitally…

UDF Explains Paper’s Absence

Rising gasoline prices, and not political ideology, is the reason that area United Dairy Farmers stores stopped carrying The New York Times, a corporate spokesman insists.—- This week’s issue of CityBeat features a Porkopolis column about The Times’ sudden disappearance from UDF stores, and how sources say it’s due to the conservative leanings of chain…

Who’s Down For Broomball?

Are you too scared of ice skating to play hockey? Too old to play soccer? Too lazy to keep the floors of your home free of dust and debris? Regularly thirsty for adult beverages during dark, cold January evenings? If so, the Fountain Square Broomball League could solve all your problems (unless one is alcoholism…

City Council, Others Sound Off About Issue 8

This week’s issue of CityBeat features an article examining Issue 8, which proposes reviving the electoral system known as proportional representation (PR) for choosing members of Cincinnati City Council. As is typical with most articles, time and space limitations prevented some material from being included in the print edition. Among such material this time includes…

What’s Best for the City

It’s a sad fact that in the last election for Cincinnati City Council, in 2007, six of the nine people elected to office won their seats with the support of less than 45 percent of voters. Even worse, just 28 percent of eligible city voters participated in the council elections last year. That means 72…

Lit: Books by the Bank

Books by the Banks descends on the Duke Energy Center for a day-long event full of literary fun. There will be regional and local authors, book signings, author panels, family activities and more. Donald Ray Pollock, author of Knockemstiff, will be one of the featured participants of the festival. Knockemstiff, Ohio, is a place where…

The Tao of Thao

When 23-year-old Thao Nguyen was a child, she boasted a talent that perhaps a fair percentage of her generation could claim as well — an almost limitless capacity to absorb television. But even for a child who can concentrate on the tube’s benign blather for nine hours at a stretch, there comes a point when…

Love Song (Review)

Critic's Pick If you need to be uplifted, you couldn’t find a better tonic for your mental state than the Cincinnati Playhouse’s regional premiere of John Kolvenbach’s Love Song, a quirky, contemporary, romantic comedy. With characters and situations that would fit perfectly in a Seinfeld episode, this show uses a spot-on cast and a deceptively…

Local Music Spooktaculars

With Halloween falling on a Friday this year, pretty much any bar you pick this weekend will have some sort of scary happening going on. But if you’re a local music fan looking for more than “Monster Mash” karaoke and costume contests, here are my picks for Friday’s fiercest, most fearsome shows. • AC/DC might…

Home Dreams, Finance Nightmares

The American dream of home ownership has become a nightmare for many local residents due to rising interest rates, record foreclosures and intense scrutiny by lenders regarding loan qualification. Even in the current financial crisis, however, loans can still be obtained with the help of government agencies, nonprofit organizations, Realtors, lenders and good old-fashioned preparedness.…

Afterhours With The Emeralds

While still just below the radar in the U.S., Afterhours are musical icons in their homeland of Milan, Italy, routinely reaching the Top 10 on the Italian charts. A steady stream of annual stateside appearances, as well as good musical friends like former Afghan Whig Greg Dulli, have helped raised their profile. The band’s latest…

Depraved and Desperate

Knockemstiff, Ohio, is a place where bony dudes, emboldened after swigging whiskey from car ashtrays, flatten men three times their size in drive-in bathrooms. It’s place where acne-riddled teenagers flee abusive fathers in favor of overweight, speed-popping homosexual truck drivers. It’s a place where hapless store clerks eat bologna and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon while…

Endorsements: Crossing Over to a New Day

View the "Who's Endorsing Whom" charts Will Tuesday be a transformative day when America elects our first African- American president and a wave of “Throw the bums out” wipes away decades of political dominance by religious and social conservatives? Will millions of new voters really join the election party in a frenzy of hope and…

Steve Poltz

Steve Poltz tasted success with the Rugburns on their 1996 Pop/Punk college radio breakout Taking the World by Donkey, but his co-write with Jewel on “You Were Meant For Me” gave him the leverage to start his solo career. It began a decade ago with One Left Shoe, but he ultimately opted out of his…

The Strongest Proof (Profile)

The past few months have been a season of change for The Strongest Proof, culminating in the release of the band’s brief but potent second Post Punk album, Robot Eats a Steak. Guitarist Tony Roth sheared his mop of curls to a boot camp cut, frontman Matt Tomlinson moved from guitar to bass and bassist…

The History Boys (Review)

Critic's Pick The History Boys makes it four in a row for wunderkind Alan Patrick Kenny of New Stage Collective. Four less similar items are difficult to imagine. To recite: Last spring there was the mordant, terrifying production Bug. Soon followed the razzle-dazzle staging of Jerry Springer: The Opera. Lately there was an exhilarating production…

Get an Education

University theater programs like UC’s College-Conservatory of Music (CCM, which offers separate programs in drama and musical theater) and Northern Kentucky University (NKU’s department of theater and dance encompasses several disciplines)train students for professional careers. Schools like Xavier and Miami universities offer theater majors that might be less technically and vocationally oriented, but most students…

The Left View

When taking walks in my neighborhood in Westwood, I see political signs for U.S. Rep. Steve Chabot all over the place. I’m currently living in what’s considered a Republican and conservative community, but apparently we have a few Democrats here too. It does my heart good to see Steve Driehaus signs scattered here and there.…

Houdini’s Box (Review)

Critic's Pick The photographer captures her in a restful state, this stranger on the ferry. She is innocently stretched over a bench, head propped against a school bag. The ocean wind whips up on the deck where she basks in white light. This image, “Voyaging and Vamping,” is one in a series of black-and-white photos…

Unusual Journey

In what could easily have become an exhibition larded with cuteness, Children in American Art at the Dayton Art Institute instead provides an unusual journey through changing concepts of childhood in America. It begins with a strange and stiff little figure from the 17th century, “Robert Gibbs at 4-1/2 Years.” Young Gibbs appears as a…

Steely Sweetness

Some kids might admit to their parents that they want to play a musical instrument. Some might even want to make it their lives. Tai Murray was like that at the age of 2 — but she also had an uncanny sense others lack. “At a very young age, I knew it would entail a…

Changeling (Review)

Clint Eastwood’s latest film, Changeling, set in the corrupt Los Angeles of the Roaring 1920s, is based on a true story so horrifically weird that it would be a challenge for anyone to figure out how to smoothly, effectively tell it. Eastwood has his problems, although the material is so unusual that this two-and-a-half-hour film…

Kevin Smith Makes a Porno

A recent Rolling Stone article entitled “What’s So Funny? The New Golden Age Of Comedy” dubs the current trend in laughs “The New Awkward” thanks to the sense of unease that has replaced the standard setup leading to a punch line foundation. I would push their argument even further, in terms of film, due to…

Mac’s Pizza Pub (Review)

Critic's Pick Life seems to be in short supply of pleasant surprises these days. I counted myself very lucky to be on the receiving end of one when I visited Mac’s Pizza Pub. I had put off my visit until the last minute for a number of reasons, one being that I was afraid it…

The Unabashed Eclectic

There is a saying, “The greater the risk, the greater the reward.” This also applies to music. There are no longer many contemporaries of Miles Davis and John Coltrane around today, and even fewer are still actively composing and performing. David Liebman, 62, is one of those few. What truly sets him apart, though, is…

Tea Fit for a Queen

It was supposedly the Duchess of Bedford who first introduced the world to afternoon tea. One of Queen Victoria’s ladies-in-waiting, the Duchess was afflicted — so many were back then — with a “sinking feeling” everyday at 4 o’clock. So she asked her servants to begin sneaking a pot of tea and assorted breads to…

All the News Isn’t Fit to Sell

Proponents of the First Amendment and freedom of the press might want to think twice the next time they’re considering popping into their corner United Dairy Farmers store for a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread. Readers have complained that they’re no longer able to buy copies of The New York Times at…

The Dwarves

It’s almost impossible to believe that the Dwarves began their perverted Punk march more than 20 years ago in a Chicago garage as a psychedelic Paisley Underground band called Suburban Nightmare. Within three years, the Dwarves true colors bled through like head trauma through cheap gauze with their glorious 1989 Punk debut for Sub Pop,…

Another Seven Days of Smokers and Teachers in Trouble

WEDNESDAY OCT. 22Vice presidential nominee/sassy maverick sidekick Sarah Palin last week unveiled numerous metaphorical characters who would benefit from a Republican administration. The AP reported today that during a rally in Grand Junction, Colo., Palin introduced “Tito the Builder,” “Phil the Bricklayer” and “Rose the Teacher” as three of the many hard-working cliches still in…

Last Call for I.O.U.S.A.

If you’re puzzled as to why or how we continue to let our national debt skyrocket out of control, the new documentary I.O.U.S.A is worth checking out as a 90-minute primer on a topic that gets woefully little attention given its impact on the future of our nation. —- Unfortunately, as is often the case…

After Party…

While I didn't go to the actual Scribble Jam events at Annies, I did visit the pre and post parties. The pre-party was full of guys and guys with bad pick up lines. One of them was, "Can I see your hand?" Now I don't really know what the end result or "punchline" of this…

Not in Our Backyard…Yet

The White House "drug czar," John Walters backed a Mexican government proposal to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana, according to the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP). "I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but John Walters is right," says Rob Kampia, executive director of MPP. "We heartily second his support for eliminating criminal penalties…


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